On Tuesday afternoon at Innisbrook’s Copperhead course, the site of the Transitions Championship in Palm Harbor, Florida, I ran into Sean Foley, who had just finished working on the range with last year’s Nationwide Tour money list winner, Jamie Lovemark. He stopped to chat and I mentioned that I enjoyed reading the Q&A he did with SI‘s Farrell Evans recently (along with Hank Haney losing his mind and going on a Twitter tirade).
Sean, smiling, said, “Did you like my Brandel Chamblee interview in Golf Canada?” Yeah, that one was good, too.
Naturally, Sean and I started discussing Tiger. In my humble opinion, we (the media) are sometimes too quick to point fingers at instructors — they’re not the ones swinging the club, after all.
This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.
WUP: You’ve been under a lot of scrutiny and criticism lately. My thinking is there’s too much emphasis on blaming coaches. It’s almost like coaches are a scapegoat, but it’s doesn’t seem fair to blame the coach for everything. What’s your take?
Sean Foley: Look, I blame myself. I know I’ve said things to Sean O’Hair to cause him to miss the cut and I know I’ve said things to Sean O’Hair to help him win. But fact of the matter is in either situation he was the one who was actively hitting all the shots. I know my role, so I don’t get too upset.
As a player, you know what you’re doing, and (as a coach) I know what I’m seeing on a day-to-day basis with Tiger. I know at some point things will tip and when they tip, it’ll be all good. I know at some point he’ll be able to do what he’s (working on) and he’s starting to.
No one would have even known on TV last week with all the criticism that he finished fourth in greens in regulation (at the WGC-Cadillac Championship). Tell me the last time he finished fourth in greens and seventh in driving distance. His speed is coming back.
He got short and crooked the other way (he was swinging). When do you remember him bombing it down the fairways, anyway? I don’t remember that.
Fact is, Tiger is very happy with (what we’re doing) and that’s really all that matters.
WUP: What are you working on with Tiger’s chipping and putting?
SF: Well, that’s all speculation.
WUP: Sorry, let me rephrase — are you working with him on his chipping and putting?
SF: We’re just trying to make it a little more simple — less handsy. But when you’re in the process of making things more simple, it doesn’t look that way, but over time it becomes more simple. That’s all it is. People are like, “We don’t understand this matching short game with swing.” We’re not doing it that much. It’s not like OK, we have to match exactly where you are in your swing. We’re looking for a golf swing that has more rotation with the body and where the club face is more square. That’s all it is — better rotation and better face position. We’re doing the same thing with chipping, it’s not like we’re saying, here you are with your swing, now match that perfectly. You know what I mean?
WUP: Yeah, I think so. It’s just applying the same philosophy?
SF: Yeah, that’s all.
WUP: Got it. Everyone is reading too much into it then?
SF: Everyone is going to read too much into it when they don’t even ask the people that are performing it and doing it. Al you’ll ever read — there’s no discussion about him or me on these things. It’s just people saying, “I heard he was more on his left side.” I’ll show you all the videos, he’s not even close to that.
WUP: Speaking of videos, what’s the deal with you and Tiger looking at them all the time? Everyone is always saying, “Oh, I saw Tiger checking out video the entire practice round — that’s not a good sign!” To me, it doesn’t seem like a huge deal because I used to do that, but I can’t explain it eloquently (nor do I want to speculate). But I just assume he just wants to see his swing.
SF: Tiger will say, ‘I’m going to take this one and get it more upright. Whoa, that felt really upright.’ So then I show him the video, ‘Here you go, Tiger, this is what it looks like when it feels really up.’ It’s not like we’re getting incremental. We’re not sitting there saying, you have to be 31 degrees across the axis at this point. It’s just more of a benchmark to know he can see how it feels. So then he can say, ‘Now I see what that feels like.’
Thanks, Sean!
(AP Photo/Reed Saxon)


March 16th, 2011 on 6:34 pm
Nice to hear what this guy’s thinking really is and not just see all the speculation. Seems like he would be a very interesting person to talk to- even about general approach and philosophy on playing any sport.
March 16th, 2011 on 6:36 pm
I love the interviews too and great job on this one. Foley strikes as a bright, (maybe overly) honest guy, who believes in himself. He also doesn’t strike me as a yes man (actually neither does Stevie, though people seem to think Tiger surrounds himself with them). Not sure I’d be touting Tigers driving though, he’s never been super straight, but he’s been better then 45%.
Coaches definitely get to much credit and blame though.
March 16th, 2011 on 6:40 pm
Great to see an interview with Foley focus on specifics of what he and Tiger are working on. I especially appreciated the point about what they are looking at when Foley takes video…that makes much more sense than what the speculation has been. Well done, Ms. Wei. (When you get a chance please check out my articles!)
March 16th, 2011 on 6:48 pm
@Steph… it seems like you have a lot of love for Sean Foley. Does that mean you will be nicer to Tiger in the future?
Inquiring minds want to know.
March 16th, 2011 on 6:49 pm
foley should wear that sweater tomorrow.
March 16th, 2011 on 6:52 pm
He has a guru reputation in Canada. He is “helping” Lorie Kane. And that is the way I see it….helping these golfers. That is all one can do for PGA Tour players…they are all smart enough, have video cameras, years of experience and lots of critics in the media.
I think Wei has been a bit harsh in characterizing Haney’s reaction. Several other media sharks have done so as well. Foley has addressed his similar spoken mis-steps but he is a bit of a prima donna. How long can he last with Woods? I don’t think for long.
March 16th, 2011 on 6:56 pm
Way to go @Steph, nice get. As a Yalie didn’t his accent remind you of a certain janitor mathmetician working at Harvard?
March 16th, 2011 on 8:01 pm
Sigh. So Tiger is re-working his chipping and putting to match his new(er) full swing?… hate to hear it. Tiger’s short game was near perfect. It kind of reminds me of those people who are addicted to plastic surgery… addicted to tweaking and tweaking, until one day, the tweaking only brings diminishing returns…
March 16th, 2011 on 9:46 pm
great insight. thanks for passing this along!
March 16th, 2011 on 10:14 pm
I agree, there is no reason why Tiger had to change his short game. I have notice for the past year or so that hi s short game is terrible by his previous standards.
Tiger use to be a great feel player with the short game and now he just looks confused.
March 17th, 2011 on 4:47 am
Foley is right. I would never have known that Tiger was 4th in GIR and 7th in driving last week. Thats a good step in the right direction.
March 17th, 2011 on 7:59 am
Glad you asked about the short game. Seems like Tiger’s focus with Sean Foley has been on the full swing. So maybe his short game woes are relative neglect? You might have pressed Sean a bit by asking about Hunter Mahan’s chunk-a-dunks under pressure.
March 17th, 2011 on 10:39 am
Fantastic piece of journalism, love the interview style. This is a good reminder of why its valuable for your readers to have you out at the courses, with the players and coaches, able to do things off the cuff like this. Also allows you to establish relationships with people out on tour, and I think we are really seeing the benefit of that this year from the groundwork you did the year previous.
March 17th, 2011 on 11:16 am
A myopic and mildly sycophantic interview. Sorry had a dictionary for breakfast. Sean Foley has got the dream coaching job in golf. Succeed and he’s made for life. Fail, and Foley will still make a fortune.It’ a win, win situation. Foley is an irksome Character, bit like myself. No where’s that pint of Guinness?
March 18th, 2011 on 9:27 am
Good work Steph…once again you use your knowledge as a “player” to get good information from Foley. This is the kind of stuff that really draws me to your site. I like your insight and perspective….
March 27th, 2011 on 2:41 am
Didn’t I read this dude couldn’t make the golf team at an all black college? Like not making it on the Jamaican bob sled team. Seriously, can this dude even break 100 on PGA tournament courses?
How can Woods allow this fella to overhaul every aspect of his game?
March 27th, 2011 on 5:06 am
He seems over rated, but most/all “big name” teaching pros are.