On Saturday afternoon the door to the scoring trailer at Bay Hill swung open and an irked Stephen Ames, sitting next to a wide-eyed Henrik Stenson, barked, “Justin, are you wearing metals?”
Rose, who was in mid-sentence during an interview, played in front of Ames and Stenson in the third round of the Arnold Palmer Invitational. He looked up and said, shaking his head, “No, I’m not.” Ames tried again, “Was JJ (Henry)?”
Rose, who was paired with Henry that day, thought for a moment and said, “No, I don’t think so.”
Ames, who shot 76 in the third round with 33 putts, slammed the door shut.
By the time I finished speaking with Rose, Ames had stomped away (softly, of course) already, but Stenson was still around.
“Somebody had the long spikes on the shoes and you could see exactly where that person had walked on every green, more or less, which is not too nice,” said the Swede. “The greens aren’t very good this week. It wasn’t pretty out there. It’s not nice if they’re picking up as much as they did.”
You see, the metal spikes aren’t the sole culprit — as it’s been explained to me, certain greens, like the firm, dry ones at Bay Hill, are more susceptible to mutilation caused by metal spikes.
“The greens are just not mature enough to handle the weather,” said the caddie of an elite player, who wishes to remain unnamed. “Apart from breakage, when they get crusty and start to dry out, it’s just a recipe for spike marks to pop.
“These greens don’t have much grass on them. There’s tons of green painted dirt around the edges.”
Added Justin Rose on Sunday after posting a sizzling 68: “The greens are overseeded so you can see the rye is laying down, so as soon as someone comes against the grain, the grass stands right up.”
Tiger Woods still wears metals, and pointed out that first- and second-round playing partners Dustin Johnson and Gary Woodland “got behind a couple Mt. Everests out there, and unfortunately, they couldn’t do anything about it.”
After last Thursday’s round, Ian Poulter triggered some controversy when he took his gripes to Twitter, saying he would ban steel spikes because of the damage they cause on firm putting surfaces.
He hasn’t stopped his crusade, either, tweeting pictures like the one below on Monday morning, accompanied with a message to Rory McIlroy, who wears metals [sic], “Ive just found @mcilroyrory other secret stash of golf shoes he left them outside. now they would make a mess.”
Said Stenson, “I was putting beautifully (on Saturday), but (the spike marks) were just looking bad. I think people should try avoiding (metal) spikes if they can. It depends on what type of greens they are, how firm they are, type of grass and so on. Soft spikes make horrible marks on really soft greens.”
D.J. Trahan, who finished T12 at Bay Hill, noted the psychological impact of having to putt through a cleat mark.
“That affects you, mentally,” said Trahan after shooting one-under 71 on Sunday. “You can be standing there and thinking, ‘I can make the best stroke in the world and I might not have a chance of making this putt.’ That just sucks. Especially if you’re playing well and hitting good shots, then you get up there and you got 10 feet but there’s a mess around the hole.”
Trahan doesn’t mind if guys choose to wear steel cleats — he’s more annoyed when they don’t bother to fix them.
“What upsets a lot of players isn’t that guys wear metal spikes, it’s that guys don’t pick their feet up and don’t pat their spikes down when they make them,” he said. “I think guys need to be a little more courteous about fixing their spike marks when they make them. I don’t care if they wear metal spikes, just be courteous to the guys coming behind you.”
However, Rose thinks it’s part of the game and doesn’t believe in being able to tap down spike marks because “we’ll be out there forever and the game is slow enough as it is.” With the individualistic nature of golf, he also poses an interesting question.
“If you have a six-footer and there’s a spike mark in your way, and you miss the putt, do you really want to tap it down?” said Rose. “We’re out here all for ourselves. So I don’t know what the etiquette should be.”
Meanwhile, Stenson offers an alternative — and perhaps the best — solution for curbing damage made by extra long spikes.
“I might just get a file and soften them up a little,” he said dryly.




March 28th, 2011 on 11:36 am
If only 10 or 15 players on the PGA still wear metal spikes, why doesn’t the tour consider banning them altogether? Or…. If some players want metal spikes for stability on some shots, make them change to soft spikes when they reach the greens.
March 28th, 2011 on 11:41 am
I know this will irk traditionalists, but why not allow players to fix spike marks if it interferes with their line? We already fix ball marks, why not spike marks? If every player is allowed to do it, one will not gain an unfair advantage. The onus is still on the player to make a good read and stroke to get it in the hole.
March 28th, 2011 on 11:48 am
I find Tiger’s comments interesting, and would sort of like to know his actual thoughts on the issue (not that I think there’s a chance in heck you could get them) for two reasons: 1) He’s one of the guys who still wears metal spikes 2) no one has played more late on the weekends then Tiger has and 3) when he first came on tour nearly everyone wore metal spikes, now it’s relatively rare.
March 28th, 2011 on 11:53 am
Ok changing shoes on the course will never happen. Guys like Poulter should just stop whining. He has to play the same course that everyone else on tour plays, so just enough already.
The tour could just allow players to tap down spike marks like they do with pitch marks. Problem solved.
Tiger has play in the last group on Sunday more than any other player on tour. Therefore he has played and won on so very marked up greens. So in my mind guys like Ames and Poulter are just making excuses.
March 28th, 2011 on 11:57 am
And another thing is safety for the players. There are some that feels that the metal spikes provide more stability during there swing. That to me is more important than catering to every whim of Ian Poulter.
March 28th, 2011 on 12:06 pm
The reason you cannot repair a spike mark is because of slow play! It’s a good rule. Given that each pair of shoes contains around 12-14 spikes, can you imagine how much longer play would take if every player, on every single putt, tended to their putting line by flattening and repairing each single spike mark? The game’s far too slow as it is.
If the authorities deem this a big enough problem the simple solution is to ban metal spikes. They are already outlawed at many private clubs, I can’t see there being too much of an issue banning a handful of players wearing spikes on the competitive tours.
March 28th, 2011 on 12:09 pm
I remember when VJ jumped on Phil about spike marks
March 28th, 2011 on 12:09 pm
I’m ambivalent. Bumpy greens suck but I hate heavy metal bans.
March 28th, 2011 on 12:12 pm
I disagree, repairing a spike would not slow up play as you described. The spike marks would only have to be tapped one time, by one player. After it is repaired it is fine for the rest of field.
If there are only 10-15 players in metal spikes then this would not slow up play at all.
What slows up play is all these elaborate pre-shot routines that so players have to perform before hit a standard chip, putt or wedge shot.
March 28th, 2011 on 12:24 pm
The fact is that slow play is the why the rule is in place Frank. It’s also not one spike mark though, is it? It’s many spike marks made, and every player will be repairing at least one per putt on EVERY putt. Do the maths; I’m amazed that you don’t think this will slow play down?!
March 28th, 2011 on 12:35 pm
“If only 10 or 15 players on the PGA still wear metal spikes, why doesn’t the tour consider banning them altogether?”
The answer to your question is…consider who it is that wears metal spikes and consider whether or not the Tour would dare speak up to an issue that might upset “him”.
March 28th, 2011 on 12:52 pm
I don’t know a single club I’ve played at in the last 8 years that allows metal spikes, and that’s been in Europe, Asia and the Middle East – in fact, even the couple of PGA championship courses I’ve been on haven’t allowed them, so I guess they turn a blind eye when the pros are in town (not to mention dress codes, but that’s another story)
But that aside, if the PGA still doesn’t want to ban metal spikes, and wants to speed up play (yeah right!), then surely just have a groundskeeper at each hole that does a quick check/tidy up after the departing group have finished and the approaching group have played up (gives him 3-4 minutes which is plenty) They do the squeegee thing on wet courses, so why not? Would level the playing field, so to speak, and surely that’s a good thing..
March 28th, 2011 on 1:15 pm
@Paul: very rarely is there 3 or 4 minutes before the group behind is ready to hit their approach shots. They most often are waiting for the groups to putt out. Having a groundskeeper at each hole would be a nightmare financially and time-wise. I remember Sergio getting distracted by the guy raking bunkers when he was hitting his approach to 18 at Carnoustie in 07. Having a guy tap down spike marks would make rounds unbelievably tedious.
March 28th, 2011 on 1:44 pm
Soft-Spikes cause damage too. I’m willing to bet some of those spike marks were contributed from soft-spikes as well.
I find it funny that the bad putters who change putter length and grip types are the ones who are complaining.
March 28th, 2011 on 1:51 pm
@kr1: I actually said they could fix them *after* they’d played their approach shots i.e. as the players are walking to the green. All we’re talking about is maybe 2 or 3 spike marks after a group…hardly going to hold up play. Especially as it’s really only the guys wearing metal spikes that are cutting them up, and that seems to be a minimal number. So in fact the vast majority of the time no work would be needed.
And I hardly think 18 extra guys would financially cripple an event – you’d get a heap of volunteers if you asked! And if there is some extra cash required, why not ask the players who want to wear metal spikes to share the cost? There again, they might be stretched, what with the increase in fuel costs, those private jet hires are getting a tad costly
And I’m half joking about the players paying, but seriously, where there’s a will there’s a way. I honestly think a few of the guys who choose to wear metal spikes would be happy to find a solution if it’s saves them the earache from other players, and allows them to keep wearing them…
March 28th, 2011 on 3:00 pm
How about a compromise. Allow players to repair spike marks, but only if they’re not wearing metal spikes. Want to wear metal, then you can deal with the spike marks that the other metal guys leave on the greens. If you and your ilk are causing the problems, you deal with the consequences. I’m guessing it would be a non-issue, as there are a number of guys who would probably gladly switch to spikeless if they were allowed to tamp down marks.
March 28th, 2011 on 5:35 pm
Look, metal, soft, whatever…
I swear, I’ve never heard so many sissies whine about cleats. Metal spikes have been around forever and PGA greats like Palmer, Miller, etc. all managed to wow the crowds and get the victories anyway. Get over it and stop making excuses..They are all sounding like TW now.
March 28th, 2011 on 5:58 pm
Tiger has played thru more spike marks than anyone playing on tour today. I dont hear him complaining.
Considering the number of times Tiger played in the last group on Sat and Sun, I’m pretty sure he has seen more spike mark than Ian.
March 28th, 2011 on 8:04 pm
Welcome to the muni boys! elements are part of the game.
March 28th, 2011 on 8:24 pm
If the course that is being played has a no metal spikes policy, then no one should be wearing metal spikes.
March 28th, 2011 on 9:19 pm
Softspikes are actually more damaging on soft Poa Annua greens and cause compaction more than metal Any restrictions should relate to the putting surface in play.Softspikes are no doubt less damaging on very firm greens but I think softspikes should be banned on soft poa.
March 28th, 2011 on 10:42 pm
“There are some that feels that the metal spikes provide more stability during there swing.”
Haha yea, like players would start falling down if they had to switch.
If any metal player actually thinks his scoring would increase with a switch to soft, they’re nutballs.
March 29th, 2011 on 2:21 am
They should have experienced volunteers or kids tamp they down after each group goes through. They have ball boys in baseball and tennis; and squeegee people when sweaty players take a spill in basketball. When the wind is too strong in football, umpires let someone hold the football over the tee with a finger. In soccer, they have injury timeouts and when the game ends is discretionary and a judgment call. Even in golf, they give you more options on where to drop a ball (with a one-shot penalty) after the ball goes in a lateral hazard. You don’t have to drop where it crossed the hazard. You can drop it on the opposite side of the hazard if it’s not closer to the hole; from the original spot you played the shot; or from any point between the flag and the point of entry in a straight line as long as it’s in play and farther from the hole.
It seems that maybe they don’t want golfers tamping down spike marks for a competitive advantage or testing the green. So why not let uninterested parties do it? Seems like an easy fix, cheap and strikes a better balance regarding the integrity and fairness of the competition to me.
March 29th, 2011 on 8:22 am
Next you know, we are going to have people complain about fat golfers making inprints on the greens and start a petition to ban fat people from golf.
March 29th, 2011 on 10:55 am
1. Allowing them to fix marks would take forever. Imagine Kevin Na check every dimple that was between him and the hole. It would take 45 minutes for him to putt.
2. I’m concerned about the safety issue. There is no doubt that metal spikes hold better, but with all the super dry greens on tour they get torn to shreds. But when its wet, the amount of torque these guys generate is significant. How about a rule that changes: ban during dry days and allow on rainy days…
March 29th, 2011 on 12:17 pm
The reason for not repairing spike marks is not slow play!! It is a basic fundamental rule of golf. You do not intentionally alter or touch the terrain while your ball is in play. Period! tamping down spike marks is improving your lie. One solution would be that after a player has finished holing out, he or she could tamp down some obvious ones for the proceeding players.
March 29th, 2011 on 1:26 pm
@Steve, yes, that is a rule. But rules change. We allow players to repair pitch marks and remove loose impediments and such under the rules. Spike marks could be the same thing. I agree that it isn’t, but I don’t think your doctrinaire approach that we never let them improve their line is really accurate. Remember, it used to be you couldn’t mark your ball on the green, either.
March 30th, 2011 on 11:38 am
I have seen retractable spikes. One could wear what one thought best tee to green, then flip a lever for walking on the putting surface. Wouldn’t that solve all problems. This golf shoe was part of an episode of CBC’s ‘Dragon’s Den.’
March 30th, 2011 on 9:44 pm
@ Divot…who you talking about, Phil Mickelson? A LOT MORE than 10 or 15 players still wear metal spikes.
March 31st, 2011 on 2:37 pm
Another example of equipment for the pros being different than what amateurs are allowed to use. No course that I know of lets Johnny 6-pack on the course with metal spikes! The stuff about “safety of the players” due to “slipping” is a joke. They need to ban metals completely.
May 5th, 2011 on 4:12 pm
Seriously, can these babies find anything else to whine about? Oh no! there are some spike marks! I mean silence, perfect grass and slow pace of play. These guys are seriously turning into total pussi@$.
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